Working On a New Jerkin

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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Greg » Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm

That stitching tho...


Great work, Manveruon, came out beautifully! Now, pics of it on you or I'll claim it's not yours!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Manveruon » Thu May 28, 2020 3:12 am

Haha, thank you! And not to worry, there will be plenty! I just have to finish the blasted thing first, and with how long the stupid braided edges are taking, that could be... a while...

Eofor wrote:It really is some of the nicest work I've seen. I know that the extra work seems arduous but the memory of it will fade long before your jerkin does, and that level of craftsmanship adds a level of authenticity to your gear that you can't get without the hours.


I keep telling myself this, because you're right - once it's over the memory of the labor does fade quickly... which is probably why I keep doing dumb stuff like this! :lol:
But yes, I do think the end product will be quite worthwhile!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby TaylorSteiner » Thu May 28, 2020 5:27 am

Amazing stuff!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Aravir » Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:45 pm

This is so cool!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Manveruon » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 am

Slowly coming together! I’m almost finished with All the edge binding, and I’m also working on getting the reinforcement patches for the front ties figured out. I think I’ve settled on this shape, which was inspired by some of the Numenorean designs discussed in a previous thread on here, and which I know Elleth and TheOwl both have used on various projects. (Please excuse the car hood here - I just don’t have a much better place to lay this out for a picture in my garage workshop.)
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Eofor » Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:11 am

Damn Manveruon, it looks better every update!

I said to Elleth the other day - 'There is an aesthetic about a well made thing that cannot be faked' and this project is is the perfect example.
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Peter Remling » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:31 pm

Do Ranger's have a runway ? That's the height of fashion ! Very Sweet !
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Ghostsoldier » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Wow...it looks more amazing each time I see it, Michael! :P

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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Iodo » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:00 pm

This looks amazing :P
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Greg » Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 pm

Very nicely done!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Cimrandir » Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:35 am

I'm slowly moving away from the ahistorical jerkin idea but I must admit the progress and skill shown in your jerkin have given me second thoughts. Well done! It looks grand!
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Manveruon » Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:28 pm

Thanks again folks! More updates forthcoming once I get the closure system sorted out. Then it’ll basically be finished!

Cimrandir wrote:I'm slowly moving away from the ahistorical jerkin idea but I must admit the progress and skill shown in your jerkin have given me second thoughts. Well done! It looks grand!


Yeah, I’ve debated back and forth with myself about jerkins and similar garments, but in the end I always just come back to the same conclusion which is, in a nutshell, “screw it, I like them,” haha. On some level, I would almost classify this as more of a surcote or even a waistcoat than a true jerkin in any case, since historically jerkins tended to be considerably shorter garments. A shorter, more late-Medieval inspired hunting jerkin might even be a bit more Middle-earth appropriate in some ways than a garment of this kind, but I’m always just drawn to the silhouette it creates. And I must say that I’ve found them practical in terms of warmth, durability, water-repellence, and overall comfort.
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby theowl » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:28 am

Manveruon wrote: “screw it, I like them,”


If I had to sum my my approach this would be how.

Manveruon wrote:On some level, I would almost classify this as more of a surcote or even a waistcoat than a true jerkin in any case, since historically jerkins tended to be considerably shorter garments


This. I've always considered Aragorn and Boromir's movie jerkins as more surcoat than actual jerkins, like what a crusader would wear, but with a front closure.
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Greg » Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:48 pm

Since we really lack textual evidence for the use of jerkins by the Dunedain, my reasoning consists of this:

1) It's more durable, so there's a decent chance that it'll prevent excess wear from thorns and brush to the torso of expensive hand-stitched garments. It's not going to stop a knife, but it could also serve as a means for quieting/visually muting a coat of maille, and preventing snags.
2) It's more fitted, so it cinches my lower-layers in for better economy of warmth in winter.
3) It separates the appearance of a green-and-brown persona from the Zelda games, which I consider to be a necessity.
4) It helps to separate the appearance of a persona from a run-of-the-mill medieval impression. As much as I consider book-accuracy to be important, I also feel that there's got to be a distinction between my kit and a straight-up Bocksten impression (for example), or we aren't doing fantasy at all.
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Postby Cimrandir » Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:32 pm

My apologies, I didn't intend to reignite the debate on the accuracy of jerkins. They can definitely be useful and I will most likely make a version myself in the future. Right now, I'm considering a short sleeved Anglo-Saxon wrap-around coat for the extra warmth and as you say "silhouette" that separates us from a Robin Hood comparison.

I am very impressed with Manveruon's work. It really looks great.

Sorry again.

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