Cloak hoods .. how did you sew yours?

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Re: Cloak hoods .. how did you sew yours?

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That was to a standard 14th c. pattern you find all over the place:
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http://www.theweebsite.com/sewing/hats/hoods.html

I made that with a friend from a historical group ages ago - if memory serves we were working from the Medieval Tailor's Assistant. The new edition is at amazon - the first still available online:
http://www.strony.toya.net.pl/~kuswir/MTA.pdf
(hoods discussed on p. 192)

Stylistically though I'm not a big fan of points or liripipes at the back of the hood. I prefer to just round off the back for a smoother line.

Were I to make another hood though, I'd follow closer to Greg's example:
https://www.middleearthrangers.org/foru ... =25&t=3723


I also very much like the piecing of the Skjoldehamn hood:
https://nattmal.wordpress.com/2016/03/1 ... hamn-hood/

I don't know if that center panel at the chest says "Middle Earth Dunedain" to me, but I'm quite partial to the aesthetic.
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Re: Cloak hoods .. how did you sew yours?

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Ranger Austin wrote:I love all the cloak discussion, especially the idea of a separate cloak/hood. Elleth, mind sharing the pattern that you used for the hood that you made Straelbora?
One of the things I enjoyed about the description of the Dwarves in "The Hobbit" was the various colors of travelling hoods, along with the tassels.
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Elleth wrote:That was to a standard 14th c. pattern you find all over the place:
medieval-hood-pattern.gif
http://www.theweebsite.com/sewing/hats/hoods.html

I made that with a friend from a historical group ages ago - if memory serves we were working from the Medieval Tailor's Assistant. The new edition is at amazon - the first still available online:
http://www.strony.toya.net.pl/~kuswir/MTA.pdf
(hoods discussed on p. 192)

Stylistically though I'm not a big fan of points or liripipes at the back of the hood. I prefer to just round off the back for a smoother line.

Were I to make another hood though, I'd follow closer to Greg's example:
https://www.middleearthrangers.org/foru ... =25&t=3723


I also very much like the piecing of the Skjoldehamn hood:
https://nattmal.wordpress.com/2016/03/1 ... hamn-hood/

I don't know if that center panel at the chest says "Middle Earth Dunedain" to me, but I'm quite partial to the aesthetic.
My thinner wool hood is the Skjoldehamn style, which I made myself (quite an accomplishment, considering how poor my sewing skills are.

I generally don't favor the long tail on hoods like the one you gave me, but considering it's such a heavy wool, it works because I wrapped it around my neck like a scarf. I'm not sure if that's how they were worn historically, but it works for me.
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Re: Cloak hoods .. how did you sew yours?

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Straelbora wrote:
Ranger Austin wrote:I love all the cloak discussion, especially the idea of a separate cloak/hood. Elleth, mind sharing the pattern that you used for the hood that you made Straelbora?
One of the things I enjoyed about the description of the Dwarves in "The Hobbit" was the various colors of travelling hoods, along with the tassels.
Historically, separate cloaks and hoods were much more common than a hooded cloak in the Middle Ages - Larsdatter's linkspage for cloaks only has two examples of hooded cloaks among the many images listed. Hooded cloaks are much more common by the 18th century, though. As for Middle-earth, Straelbora's point about the travelling hoods is one of the most clear examples of the Professor describing hoods and cloaks as separate garments, but there are a few other descriptions in the text that seem to suggest that set-up.

From an adventuring perspective, I find the separate hood and cloak to have a sort of modular utility - you can use either garment or both, as the situation requires. Depending on the style of cloak you use, it even lets you wear the cloak in multiple ways while still having a hood.
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Taurinor wrote:
Straelbora wrote:
Ranger Austin wrote:I love all the cloak discussion, especially the idea of a separate cloak/hood. Elleth, mind sharing the pattern that you used for the hood that you made Straelbora?
One of the things I enjoyed about the description of the Dwarves in "The Hobbit" was the various colors of travelling hoods, along with the tassels.
Historically, separate cloaks and hoods were much more common than a hooded cloak in the Middle Ages - Larsdatter's linkspage for cloaks only has two examples of hooded cloaks among the many images listed. Hooded cloaks are much more common by the 18th century, though. As for Middle-earth, Straelbora's point about the travelling hoods is one of the most clear examples of the Professor describing hoods and cloaks as separate garments, but there are a few other descriptions in the text that seem to suggest that set-up.

From an adventuring perspective, I find the separate hood and cloak to have a sort of modular utility - you can use either garment or both, as the situation requires. Depending on the style of cloak you use, it even lets you wear the cloak in multiple ways while still having a hood.
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