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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm
by Greg
That stitching tho...


Great work, Manveruon, came out beautifully! Now, pics of it on you or I'll claim it's not yours!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 3:12 am
by Manveruon
Haha, thank you! And not to worry, there will be plenty! I just have to finish the blasted thing first, and with how long the stupid braided edges are taking, that could be... a while...
Eofor wrote:It really is some of the nicest work I've seen. I know that the extra work seems arduous but the memory of it will fade long before your jerkin does, and that level of craftsmanship adds a level of authenticity to your gear that you can't get without the hours.
I keep telling myself this, because you're right - once it's over the memory of the labor does fade quickly... which is probably why I keep doing dumb stuff like this! :lol:
But yes, I do think the end product will be quite worthwhile!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 5:27 am
by Taylor Steiner
Amazing stuff!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:45 pm
by Aravir
This is so cool!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:59 am
by Manveruon
Slowly coming together! I’m almost finished with All the edge binding, and I’m also working on getting the reinforcement patches for the front ties figured out. I think I’ve settled on this shape, which was inspired by some of the Numenorean designs discussed in a previous thread on here, and which I know Elleth and TheOwl both have used on various projects. (Please excuse the car hood here - I just don’t have a much better place to lay this out for a picture in my garage workshop.)
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Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:11 am
by Eofor
Damn Manveruon, it looks better every update!

I said to Elleth the other day - 'There is an aesthetic about a well made thing that cannot be faked' and this project is is the perfect example.

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:31 pm
by Peter Remling
Do Ranger's have a runway ? That's the height of fashion ! Very Sweet !

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:48 pm
by Ghostsoldier
Wow...it looks more amazing each time I see it, Michael! :P

Rob

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:00 pm
by Iodo
This looks amazing :P

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 pm
by Greg
Very nicely done!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:35 am
by Cimrandir
I'm slowly moving away from the ahistorical jerkin idea but I must admit the progress and skill shown in your jerkin have given me second thoughts. Well done! It looks grand!

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:28 pm
by Manveruon
Thanks again folks! More updates forthcoming once I get the closure system sorted out. Then it’ll basically be finished!
Cimrandir wrote:I'm slowly moving away from the ahistorical jerkin idea but I must admit the progress and skill shown in your jerkin have given me second thoughts. Well done! It looks grand!
Yeah, I’ve debated back and forth with myself about jerkins and similar garments, but in the end I always just come back to the same conclusion which is, in a nutshell, “screw it, I like them,” haha. On some level, I would almost classify this as more of a surcote or even a waistcoat than a true jerkin in any case, since historically jerkins tended to be considerably shorter garments. A shorter, more late-Medieval inspired hunting jerkin might even be a bit more Middle-earth appropriate in some ways than a garment of this kind, but I’m always just drawn to the silhouette it creates. And I must say that I’ve found them practical in terms of warmth, durability, water-repellence, and overall comfort.

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:28 am
by theowl
Manveruon wrote: “screw it, I like them,”
If I had to sum my my approach this would be how.
Manveruon wrote: On some level, I would almost classify this as more of a surcote or even a waistcoat than a true jerkin in any case, since historically jerkins tended to be considerably shorter garments


This. I've always considered Aragorn and Boromir's movie jerkins as more surcoat than actual jerkins, like what a crusader would wear, but with a front closure.

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:48 pm
by Greg
Since we really lack textual evidence for the use of jerkins by the Dunedain, my reasoning consists of this:

1) It's more durable, so there's a decent chance that it'll prevent excess wear from thorns and brush to the torso of expensive hand-stitched garments. It's not going to stop a knife, but it could also serve as a means for quieting/visually muting a coat of maille, and preventing snags.
2) It's more fitted, so it cinches my lower-layers in for better economy of warmth in winter.
3) It separates the appearance of a green-and-brown persona from the Zelda games, which I consider to be a necessity.
4) It helps to separate the appearance of a persona from a run-of-the-mill medieval impression. As much as I consider book-accuracy to be important, I also feel that there's got to be a distinction between my kit and a straight-up Bocksten impression (for example), or we aren't doing fantasy at all.

Re: Working On a New Jerkin

Posted: Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:32 pm
by Cimrandir
My apologies, I didn't intend to reignite the debate on the accuracy of jerkins. They can definitely be useful and I will most likely make a version myself in the future. Right now, I'm considering a short sleeved Anglo-Saxon wrap-around coat for the extra warmth and as you say "silhouette" that separates us from a Robin Hood comparison.

I am very impressed with Manveruon's work. It really looks great.

Sorry again.