A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Iodo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:35 pm

Manveruon wrote:- One, I suspect a large part of what I love about the color and texture is a result of the traditional tanning and dying methods. I definitely couldn't achieve the same look with most modern dyes or tans. It really has a beautifully rustic look that just FEELS *RIGHT*, somehow.

Agreed, it's an amazing piece, I can never quite replicate the feel of traditional tanning and dying methods, even if the colors are the same, maybe texture or even-ness?
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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Elleth » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:56 am

Thank you guys! :mrgreen:

Manv, if you like the shape, I dug out my pattern.
I'm *pretty* sure the front piece is my more recent one, but I'd still recommend if you give this a go making a mockup in canvas or something first.

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Regarding traditional materials - absolutely!
I'm in the planning stages for a new project and ordered in some samples of commercial leather... and just am not happy with any of it.

It is *amazing* the difference the natural dye process makes. Needing sun to darken things up has always been a pain though: the only long stretches of time I have are over the winter, and the sun's just not strong enough to do anything then, at least where I live. The last couple years I've tried to follow a cut-and-dye in the summer, sew and finish in the winter, but it's been pretty hit-or-miss. And - as this pouch shows - there's not much room for error if you flub a piece.

Still, I've been experimenting in our seedling tent with artificial lights, and so far results are promising. I'd rather have all sun-tanned leather of course, but sometimes one takes what one can get. I can't see a difference anyhow. :)


Regarding buckles... I think with iron or patina'd bronze one can absolutely avoid the shine issue: I just didn't care to do that with this particular project. Most of my other bronze is darkened though, and it doesn't draw the eye at all. That said, I've been generally trying to remove metal where I can and I think toggles and such are a a perfectly dandy solution for pouch closures. I've not got a favorite yet for rangery use.
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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Manveruon » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:43 am

That's wonderful! Thank you so much for sharing ththe pattern!
I'm wondering - can you give me any more info on how you lined it, and which specific sections have linen lining?
Also - the tongue/tab on the flap for the buckle - is that too pieces, or did you choose to stitch all the way around it to keep the leather from stretching and to continue the aesthetic of the stitched edge from the rest of the top flap?
Honestly, any particulars about the construction itself would be greatly appreciated!
I suspect I may have to just use modern leather and/or dyes if I do one, because I don't really have a good place to go about sun-baking anything for the walnut dye process - but I'm having some thoughts about how I might be able to achieve a similar feel, if not *quite* same. I'll have to experiment.
And yeah, you're certainty right, of course, about darkening/dulling the metal. I'm just always so torn on buckles for pouches like this, because I LOVE how they look, but I often find them a bit fiddly when I'm on the go.
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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Manveruon » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:44 am

Oh - and while I'm thinking about it - would it not be easier.to simply sew the top-flap/belt-channel section onto the finished pouch at the end, after the other pieces have been assembled and turned? I know the space inside might be a little tight for stitching the bottom-most line, but perhaps it would still be easier than turning the whole thing?
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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Elleth » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:00 am

Let's see...

- no linen anywhere. The lid/flap is "lined" with goatskin, which makes that little pouch I use for tinder/tow.
- tongue/tab: I did it both ways as I recall. I think I started with two pieces of goatskin, didn't like how it came out, and re-did with a single thickness of cowhide. Either will work: depends on how thick/pliable the leather you have is. (I think the cowhide I used was in the 5-7 oz, and the goat around 3-4, but I'm not certain)
- when to attach the top flap: I think the divider would make it prohibitively cramped to work in there - but if you don't have a divider, that order should work just fine.

Can't wait to see how yours comes out!
Have you seen Ursus' rendition?
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Oh! One more thing.

If you're doing lanyard rings and you like the "arc" pattern on my d-rings but don't like shapeways' cost, I just saw these on KoA recently:
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=LB25340
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Re: A Dúnedain Ranger's belt pouch

Postby Manveruon » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:06 am

Aha! Okay, that makes more sense! I misinterpreted your previous photo showing the pattern pieces as being the leather for the outer part of the pouch and linen pieces for lining! Definitely explains why I didn't actually see any linen lining in the final product! Not sure where my brain was there - perhaps I got a bit over-excited upon my re-entry to the forums, haha.

And yeah, I took a quick look at his as well! Looks very nice! I've been meaning to read through that whole post of his in detail, but haven't quite gotten there yet. Still trying to catch up on everything I've missed (or at least the highlights).

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