3rd Age Dunedain Back Quiver - Take IV
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Aaaaaaand functional:
Dyed, stitched, waxed. Now the jury is out on the closure method. In the past, I've done a standard sewn-in drawstring, but when the fabric gathers it tends to leave a significant hole at the top. The film versions used punched holes in a leather trim that were laced, but I'm not sold. Thing is, what if it's raining and I suddenly need an arrow? How do I open it easily, if at all? I may leave it this way for now...it's long enough to be pulled up and over them without needing something to secure it.
Dyed, stitched, waxed. Now the jury is out on the closure method. In the past, I've done a standard sewn-in drawstring, but when the fabric gathers it tends to leave a significant hole at the top. The film versions used punched holes in a leather trim that were laced, but I'm not sold. Thing is, what if it's raining and I suddenly need an arrow? How do I open it easily, if at all? I may leave it this way for now...it's long enough to be pulled up and over them without needing something to secure it.
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what about a cord with a toggle, like a drawstring, but basically a toggle end that you can grab and pull closed but open easily as well?
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Back when I still used a traditional quiver I would keep an older more beat up arrow outside of my internal arrow bag for just such a purpose. For what it’s worth. You could also tuck said arrow through your belt underneath your cloak when it starts to rain in order to keep the fletching dry but keep it readily accessible.
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So I think Weta did something different with Aragorn's arrow sock for the movies than with the rangers of Ithilien. With his, it looks like the sock itself is quite long, and can be folded over at the top to protect the arrows. Then, there appears to be one or two lengths of braided cord that are tied around this, somewhat loosely, to keep the whole thing secure at need. There is also a mysterious metal piece attached to these cords, and I suspect it might be a sort of friction device used to cinch them tight, but it's hard to tell.
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I'm just curious whether this kind of quiver will work with all sorts of arrowheads. Target points are easy, of course, but what of broadheads?
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That depends largely on the shape of your broadheads. Swallowtail heads, obviously, would not work well here, but then again barbed heads of any non-mechanical/expanding sort are illegal to carry during any active hunting seasons nation-wide, so that's out anyway.
Fortunately, mine looks like this: Maker's Credit: Meuleurgy (Odigan).
Fortunately, mine looks like this: Maker's Credit: Meuleurgy (Odigan).
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Photo evidence? I could search...but I think it'd be easier to just ask the guru to check his database.Manveruon wrote:With his, it looks like the sock itself is quite long, and can be folded over at the top to protect the arrows. Then, there appears to be one or two lengths of braided cord that are tied around this, somewhat loosely, to keep the whole thing secure at need. There is also a mysterious metal piece attached to these cords, and I suspect it might be a sort of friction device used to cinch them tight, but it's hard to tell.
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Those look great! Had chance to mount any to a shaft and shoot them yet?Greg wrote:That depends largely on the shape of your broadheads. Swallowtail heads, obviously, would not work well here, but then again barbed heads of any non-mechanical/expanding sort are illegal to carry during any active hunting seasons nation-wide, so that's out anyway.
Fortunately, mine looks like this:
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Maker's Credit: Meuleurgy (Odigan).
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I did, and it flew very well, but that arrow was old and has been retired. I'm waiting to re-mount it until my yew project is finished so I can custom-spine an arrow a bit stiff for it, since it's a bit heavy on the grain side...I think something like 190.
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Cool!
I also kinda like that my off-the-shelf Chippenham heads don't look toooooo different. A little bit of cultural uniformity is nice.
The arrowsock-inside-the-quiver is an interesting thing - it the one piece of WETA gear that is both - as far as I know - an innovation and also actually astonishingly useful in the real world. It makes me wonder if they actually came up with it, or if some native culture in New Zealand had them back when they used bows for real.
I also kinda like that my off-the-shelf Chippenham heads don't look toooooo different. A little bit of cultural uniformity is nice.
The arrowsock-inside-the-quiver is an interesting thing - it the one piece of WETA gear that is both - as far as I know - an innovation and also actually astonishingly useful in the real world. It makes me wonder if they actually came up with it, or if some native culture in New Zealand had them back when they used bows for real.
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I would LOVE to hear a story about the sound guys getting upset at all the arrow rattling on set or something...Elleth wrote:The arrowsock-inside-the-quiver is an interesting thing - it the one piece of WETA gear that is both - as far as I know - an innovation and also actually astonishingly useful in the real world. It makes me wonder if they actually came up with it, or if some native culture in New Zealand had them back when they used bows for real.
Agreed. I have plans to pick up a few of those, myself.Elleth wrote:I also kinda like that my off-the-shelf Chippenham heads don't look toooooo different. A little bit of cultural uniformity is nice.
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Greg wrote:I would LOVE to hear a story about the sound guys getting upset at all the arrow rattling on set or something...
That actuly seems possible, I used a hired TV camera once and had to take keys and loose change off people to stop the sound boom picking it up
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One of the c.2001 art books has early concept drawings of Legolas' quivers, and at least one has an arrow sock. So it was an idea they were playing with well before they got to production.I would LOVE to hear a story about the sound guys getting upset at all the arrow rattling on set or something...
Now that said, I could easily imagine that story played on the set of Xena or something, someone remembered, someone transferred to WETA in the '90s, etc etc.
I would SO LOVE if one of their original crew dropped in one day to share stories.
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Yeah, now that you guys bring it up, I'm terribly curious myself. The idea is kind of brilliant, and I'd absolutely love to know what its origin on the films was.
Also, Greg, sorry I hadn't been on the forums in a few days when you asked about my previous post. Did you end up finding anything useful in my Aragorn movie pic compilation?
Also, Greg, sorry I hadn't been on the forums in a few days when you asked about my previous post. Did you end up finding anything useful in my Aragorn movie pic compilation?
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Not really. Which is good, because I'd rather not draw too much inspiration from Viggo's outfit. Just feels...wrong.
...but I *DID* think of a solution, which has been staring me in the face.
So there's that.
...but I *DID* think of a solution, which has been staring me in the face.
So there's that.
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