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Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 7:39 pm
by Elleth
Hah!

I'm sure he's just having fun. :)

Dwarves speak the common tongue (Westron) amongst other folk, and Khuzdul among themselves. Sadly, the extant word list is really limited:
https://eldamo.org/content/word-indexes/words-kh.html

... there are a few in there you might use to name your hammer if you've a mind to though - "blackspike" comes to mind. I don't know how fleshed out the grammar is for Khuzdul is (not very is my belief) .. but you could probably come up with something plausible.

Alternately, a name in Westron might be possible, especially if you're willing to add some extrapolated words from Adunaic.

Iodo - if you were to write something on it in English, what would it be?

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:39 pm
by Iodo
Thanks for the link to the words, that's fascinating, wouldn't know where to begin with pronunciation though?
Elleth wrote: Iodo - if you were to write something on it in English, what would it be?
Quite honestly, not a clue? Given how cheaply made the war hammer is and how little it cost me, I wasn't going to do any serious research. A friend suggested ''goblin smasher'' :lol: but I think I like ''blackspike'' better. The original plan was to use the same runes I used on my vambraces, the ones me, my brother and a few friends can read.

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:24 pm
by Peter Remling
How about your Dwarvish name. It would just show ownership.

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:47 am
by Elleth
I don't really understand dwarvish grammar, but I *think* "Blackspike" would be "narâgzirak"
"Black" in this instance comes from the early name of Mirrormere - "Narag-zâram" or more literally (I think) "Black-Lake."
There might then be extra connotations to "narag" implying depth or mystery/wonder rather than simply noting the color "black."
Or maybe not, I've no idea. :)

There's two versions of cirth a Dwarf of the Lonely Mountain might use. The first is the Moria mode, and I think more formal/older. The second is the Erebor mode, which is also used by the Dwarves when writing Westron ("Common"). If this helps -
merf-cirth-naragzirak.gif
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You almost certainly wouldn't have your Dwarven "inner name" on your possessions, as that's quite secret.
You might well have a nickname in either Dwarvish or Common on there though. :)

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:55 am
by Iodo
Nice, thanks for the translation's, I think I'll use that :P

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:10 pm
by caedmon
Iodo wrote: Which seem to say "WARHMAR" the same as the image name.

Forgive me for asking a stupid question but I can't help wondering, is this some sort of dwarven language or just a shortened form of the word warhammer? :lol:
The runes I did were entirely for illustration. Not intended to be copied.

If I recall, I wrote WARHMAR ÞS IS -Warhammer this is, using the Angerthas Moria font. It's a nod to the delightfully literal runic transcription on the Lolland Thors Hammer.


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Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:21 pm
by Iodo
I completely failed to work out what the four letters at the end were, clever :mrgreen:

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 7:40 pm
by Iodo
I've been giving some thought to this, since the recent discussion that decided the name for my characters job role I think I should include the term 'fells-ward' in the runes, here's the caption I have in mind:

"Nargzirak
Of the Fells-Ward"


The war hammer could have been given to Iodo when she joined the Erebor Watch, even though it wouldn't be her first choice as a weapon, it makes a nice in character keepsake.

The runes will be riten in Anglo Saxon like on all my other project's, sorry to disappoint you all, but they're the runes I can read and learned out of The Hobbit. Even if it was only Tolkien's translation, those runes will probably always feel more dwarven to me than anything else :oops: :lol:

[EDIT] Don't worry, I will spell it right on the actual thing! (narâgzirak) Can't spell in English, don't stand a chance with anything else :P

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:08 pm
by Taylor Steiner
Too cool.

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:13 pm
by Iodo
TaylorSteiner wrote:Too cool.
Thanks :mrgreen:

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:43 pm
by Iodo
Ever since that MERS news letter all about dwarves came out I've really wanted this, and when my company announced that there would be a Christmas bonus I couldn't believe my good luck that it hadn't sold yet :mrgreen:

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Odigan's craftsmanship is amazing, it's even better for real than it is in the photographs, I feel proud to have it :P

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:50 pm
by Greg
Congrats!

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:16 pm
by Elleth
I was soooooo hoping that would end up in your hands.


AWESOME. :mrgreen:

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:26 pm
by Odigan
Hey, it finally got there! Glad to see it go to an appreciative home.

Re: Some new stuff

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:26 pm
by Taylor Steiner
Ooh niceeee.