Most of Tolkien's sketches are stylized and meant to evoke an idea or feeling rather than be a faithful depiction of what things actually looked like.
What illustrations from Tolkien, or one of his authorized illustrators, can we assume looked like what he describes in the books? I think that at least Thror's map; and the shape of fonts are in this category.
In addition to this I would place the painted page from the Book of Marazbul, the Numenorean carpet and his heraldry of the great houses.
Is there anything else? Maybe the drawing of the bag end front-room? Anything else?
What actual artifacts do we have from the Third age?
What actual artifacts do we have from the Third age?
-Jack Horner
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Impression: Cædmon Reedmace | bronze founder living in Archet, Breeland. c. 3017
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Impression: Cædmon Reedmace | bronze founder living in Archet, Breeland. c. 3017
Re: What actual artifacts do we have from the Third age?
A few I've collected:
Don't have a pic of it, but the King's Letter to Sam (written in silver ink on black silk?)--it's in one of the HoME books...
I picked up a copy of Bilbo's Last Song at the library a few months back...illustrated wonderfully by Pauline Baynes. I believe it was originally released within a year of Tolkien's death; I would very much like to know if he had any input or say-so on her depictions of things.
Don't have a pic of it, but the King's Letter to Sam (written in silver ink on black silk?)--it's in one of the HoME books...
I picked up a copy of Bilbo's Last Song at the library a few months back...illustrated wonderfully by Pauline Baynes. I believe it was originally released within a year of Tolkien's death; I would very much like to know if he had any input or say-so on her depictions of things.
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- Numenorean 'karma' helmet ("made of overlapping enamelled plates of metal, the "fish crest" of leather embossed and colored'")
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- the emblem of the 'Mordor Special Mission Flying Corps' (supposedly resembling a fell beast-mounted Nazgul from below)
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- the Throne of Gondor (from his RotK cover draft...I always thought it looked like a plate rack with wings)
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- Thorin's letter to Bilbo
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Personae: Aistan son of Ansteig, common Beorning of Wilderland; Tungo Brandybuck, Eastfarthing Bounder, 3018 TA; a native Man of the Greyflood, c.850 SA
Re: What actual artifacts do we have from the Third age?
Udwin, as always you are a treasure, and a font of knowledge.
I think I'm good with most of these, except the throne. I fear that if we accept that throne as a faithful depiction, we have to also accept his rendition of the white tree which is in the same painting. ( And I much prefer the ones that have become standard. )
I think I'm good with most of these, except the throne. I fear that if we accept that throne as a faithful depiction, we have to also accept his rendition of the white tree which is in the same painting. ( And I much prefer the ones that have become standard. )
-Jack Horner
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Impression: Cædmon Reedmace | bronze founder living in Archet, Breeland. c. 3017
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Impression: Cædmon Reedmace | bronze founder living in Archet, Breeland. c. 3017
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Re: What actual artifacts do we have from the Third age?
To be honest, I'm not that fond of most of the Professor's drawings from human cultures, though the floral motifs have grown on me.
That said, Turner Mohan's early Numenorean sketches really do a great job of salvaging awesome from what could be (to a modern eye) a potentially goofy direction.
Tolkien's drawings are a good reminder to bring a bit more Minoan/Egyptian into the mix of old Numenoreans though.
That said, Turner Mohan's early Numenorean sketches really do a great job of salvaging awesome from what could be (to a modern eye) a potentially goofy direction.
Tolkien's drawings are a good reminder to bring a bit more Minoan/Egyptian into the mix of old Numenoreans though.
Persona: Aerlinneth, Dúnedain of Amon Lendel c. TA 3010.