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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:36 pm

Ok, after much disembling and a change of course.... My first Numenorean design step by step...

I had threatened to do nautical motifs, but as I spent more time working on the patterns I realized that the I need to deal with the basic form.

Many semi-codified artistic styles base their work on a set of basic shapes. LaTene celts specialized in spirals, Anglo-Saxons and Vikings in animal interlace, North-West Coast Art in formlines, and Art Noveau in organic shapes. The Numenorean art we have overwhelmingly uses built up arcs. (To a lesser extent they also use scrollwork) So rather than start with the Nautical motifs I started with the Lozenges which really showcase that buildup well.

Green lines denote the first in a series of repeated shapes, red are continuations.


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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Greg » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:18 am

Holy freaking cow.

Jack, you've outdone yourself. Do we have carte blanche to run amok with this(these) on our own projects?
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:35 pm

Greg wrote:Holy freaking cow.

Jack, you've outdone yourself. Do we have carte blanche to run amok with this(these) on our own projects?



Absolutely, that's the whole point.


I should have another today.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Wed Apr 27, 2016 5:53 pm

ok, here's another. One of the more complex borders, one that doesn't initially seem to be arcs until you break it down.

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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Elleth » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Hunh... I wonder if there was a Numenorean Pythagoras playing with things like this once upon a time? It's all very mathematical.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Udwin » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:55 pm

Oh man, we really need a 'jaw dropping' emoticon - I'm speechless, that is Too Cool. Well, I know what I'll be doodling in the margins for the next long while!
Looking at your broken-down border compared to Tolkien's original pencil design, it really feels like you're reconstructing the frescoes of Knossos or something like that. (Mediterranean mother culture, makes sense).
Very exciting.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:53 pm

Elleth wrote:Hunh... I wonder if there was a Numenorean Pythagoras playing with things like this once upon a time? It's all very mathematical.


Oddly enough I keep thinking along the same lines. Tar-Meneldur is who I keep coming back to, but he was born over 500 years after the founding of Numenor, so that feels a bit late.

Udwin wrote:Oh man, we really need a 'jaw dropping' emoticon - I'm speechless, that is Too Cool. Well, I know what I'll be doodling in the margins for the next long while!
Looking at your broken-down border compared to Tolkien's original pencil design, it really feels like you're reconstructing the frescoes of Knossos or something like that. (Mediterranean mother culture, makes sense).
Very exciting.


Thank you I am flattered. As for Knossos, wait for the wavy lozenge and border. They really have that Minoan feel.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:30 pm

The value of decoding an artistic system.


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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Elleth » Wed May 11, 2016 1:04 pm

Hah! You've given me visions of ignoring my chemistry teacher to doodle Celtic knotwork and tengwar in my notebook.. memory lane!

Anyhow, these are lovely! Thank you caedmon!

I confess a lot Tolkien's drawings don't appeal to me on the page, but realized in craft they do take on a nice look.
I've fallen in love with that "flower in a square" corner tile he made, and find it lovely on trinkets.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Sat May 21, 2016 12:58 am

Found another...
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:01 pm

Ok, one more. Before I jump into plant motifs, here's another lozenge. This is an important one, I call it the bat-wing, and it comes from the flowering plant in the Numenorean carpet. The importance is that it is one of the major motifs picked up by other Numenorean imspired artists, for example Turner Mohan uses it as an armour detail in some of his illustrations.

I initially do it in the same aspect ration as my other lozenge, and then re do it as Tolkien drew it, as a corner motif.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Kortoso » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:14 pm

Very nice.

I adore the Art Nouveau approach, and I appreciate seeing a path to making "fractal"-like designs.
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby caedmon » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:20 pm

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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Elleth » Tue May 23, 2017 11:52 pm

OH MY GOD SOMEONE ACTUALLY MADE THE CARPET!!!!!

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Honestly, it looks a lot better than I would have expected. I fear I'd always thought the drawing itself a nice collection of motifs, but rather chaotic and unpleasant in total composition. As we're seeing with so many of the Professor's drawings though, once rendered into the real world it looks quite nice!
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Re: Numenorean design motifs

Postby Udwin » Wed May 24, 2017 2:31 pm

wow Wow WOW! That is amazing! I hear you on the chaos of the original...while the rug-maker did simplify some of the elements (borders mostly), it came out incredible. I'd be scared to think about how much the client paid for it.
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