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Leather Question

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:05 pm
by Ennelyn
I am curious about something. Is there a trick to dyeing leather? Each time I have tried to dye leather brown, it comes out with a reddish tint to it, and I am not sure why.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 2:50 pm
by Yavion
What kind of dye are you using? Are you getting the leather wet first? What kind of leather is it?

It's the little things when dyeing leather. You want your leather to be a little moist and warm. If it's warm the dye will seep into the pores better. It also makes a difference if you're using alcohol or oil based dye. Of course you don't want to wet the leather too much if oil based, as it won't take as well.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:58 pm
by Ennelyn
I am using Eco-Flo, a water based dye that Tandy Leather sells, on veg tanned leather sides. Maybe a different brand would be best?

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:53 pm
by E.MacKermak
What color Eco-Flo? Eco-Flo can be a bit difficult to work with. Make sure your leather is clean and damp when you apply it. That seems to work best. And don't forget to seal it with something after it dries or your clothes will likely have added color the next time you sweat heavily or get caught in the rain. I personally prefer Fiebing's (also from Tandy).

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 12:15 am
by Ennelyn
Timber brown is the color I have tried to use, which doesn't show up to be anything like the samples they show in the store. For example, the quivers I recently made with them.
Not that they look horrible - in fact the first one I made, the larger one, one of my friends liked so much that he bought it off me - but I was going for an actual brown. I'm wondering if I get a darker brown, maybe from the brand you recommended, and redo it, if the red tint would show through.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:13 am
by Manveruon
Those are nice looking quivers!

As for the dye, part of the issue may be the leather itself. I've used Eco Flo a lot, and I've discovered that when the leather has ruddy undertones already, the final product has a reddish hue. However, when the leather is very... I dunno, grey, I suppose, the final product looks closer to a true brown. Personally I tend to use their medium brown antique gel, and I've had excellent luck with it. My own quiver was made using that dye, and I love the color it produced. You can see pics of that one here:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/ ... CN2355.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/ ... CN2342.jpg

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 10:26 am
by Ennelyn
Love the color of that! Looks like I'll be making a trip to Tandy Monday.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:08 pm
by sgainbrachta
Yeah- what they've said. Eco-flow is just too finicky for me. I like both the antique stains (for tooled stuff, especially) and Feibings Oil dye. Most Tandy leathers have a color board to look at, too.

And as stated before- slightly moist and warm-ish is wayyy better for an even color!

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:12 am
by Jon
Manveruon, do you have a pattern for that quiver anywhere?? it's absolutely goorrrggggeeoouuusss.

I'm afraid I don't know much about dyeing leather either. I can't really get dye specifically for the purpose here, so is there anyway to make leather dye?

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:22 am
by Peter Remling
Dirhael wrote: I can't really get dye specifically for the purpose here, so is there anyway to make leather dye?
Try liquid shoe polish, it works almost as well.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:18 pm
by Manveruon
Thanks Dirhael! I unfortunately do not have a pattern - the project was kind of a one-off for me. But I might be able to make one for something like it someday.

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 pm
by Jon
No problem. I shall closely study the picture, and attempt a similar design :)

Thanks for the info Pete!

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:38 pm
by Ennelyn
Thanks for the info everyone - and Manveruon - I love the quiver.
But I do have another question. Is there something I can add to the leather to keep it from losing its shape if it gets wet in rain?

Re: Leather Question

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:52 pm
by BrianGrubbs
I treat my leather with Sno-seal and it works pretty well. There are several different leather waterproofing products out there. Depending on what you're making you can also wax harden it. That makes it very water resistant, and in general helps it keep its shape. Here's a good article on leather hardening http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Medieval/ ... t_Armr.pdf

Brian